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spent debating mitt romney's plan. and in an odd way while the obama folks think long term that will help them create contrasts and comparatives, short-term it elevates romney to sort of presidential ideas and allows that voter to say can i picture that guy in the big chair, brian? >> and tom brokaw, i'm guessing you concur that the victory from tonight is for substance. say what you will, yes, there's going to be spin. yes, these are two guys on different sides of the ideological aisle. we've got a good substantive airing tonight. especially on the economy. of the issues we set out to discuss. >> this is what a debate should be about. let the two candidates go after each other. they both came prepared knowing they were going to have to close the case, if you will, with the american people. i think there's a consensus at this hour at least that governor romney, whether or not you agree with his policies, marshalled his facts in a more coherent fashion than the president did. hailey barbour, who's one of the great republican party strategists, former governor of the state of
more crisp in his presentation. he was leaning into the debate when president obama was a little bit more laid back. i think he was able to be aggressive without being offensive. so, even though there were -- i didn't see any knockout punches. no breakthrough moments or major mistakes. i think governor romney will get the boost that challengers usually get. the big question, did he do anything to dramatically change the trajectory of the race? >> well, just some of what you are telling us from home and you are sending us torrents of e-mails tonight, somebody has said, you know, this is a debate you needed a calculator to follow in the first 25 minutes. a lot of numbers thrown out there and just for the record, the biggest number of tweets so far on big bird, but we'll get back to that in a moment. i want to turn to matthew dowd, a key strategist for both sides of the aisle, at different points in his life. is george right? >> well, i think this -- we all try to make comparisons to these races to previous presintial races and this race has been so eerily familiar to 2004 and tonight w
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